Defend or capture city under attack and save its hero

Normal defense city under attack

Hello everyone
I wrote this note more than year ago, added some info to it lately
I didn't entirely revise it, so please let me know if there is any mistakes
I didn't publish anything about that matter before since there are many sayings and i didn't want to force you to use one type

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In all cases for the city under attack:
(1) (send to/put in/leave in/reinforce with) your best hero and 1-1k+-5k+ of each warr, work, pikes, swords, cavs, phracts and CATAPULTS
(2) Appoint your best politics hero as a mayor and keep building traps/abatis in low numbers and time it to be done before the hit

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for archers hit: more archers and mech

(1),(2)
(3) (send out/dismiss) work, warr, pikes, swords, cavs, phracts and maybe others if you don't have much, but leave (1)
(4) (send to/put in/leave in/reinforce with) archers and pults

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for mechanics hit:


In normal defense that has rangers (traps, abatis, DTs 5000+ range) you will probably lose a lot


you can do one of next

1. (1), (3) and (4) send out your all archers as well and leave only 5k you will probably kill mech and lose some walls

2. (5) Close your gates and let them take all your walls, and maybe you can send resources out with trans, if you have incoming trans tho

2. (6) Use CD, you will have losses as well, but not that big like normal defense
mech loves rangers (traps, abatis, DTs 5000+ range) and that happens in Normal defense
in CD, you will have mostly ATs and some logs, no rangers here, cavs will act like abatis, and you will get less archers losses
you will probably lose all ATs and with many mech or arch waves you are done

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for scouts hit (scouts bombs/SBs): more warriors for scouts

you want the scouts to hit the warriors the cheap units so
(1),(2)
(7) The best thing that i could think about is to kill the attacker scouts, so coordinate scouting with all your friends with their best heroes but i hope the attacker has gates open
(8) (send to/put in/leave in/reinforce with) warriors, their numbers should be at least 2.4 times archers

Since SBs are hitting the biggest accumulative attack of defending units, which mostly will be archers
warr att is 5o
arch att is 120
5o*x=120*1
x=120/50=2.4
so, each 1 arch equals 2.4 warr
so, for warr to take the hits of SBs instead of arch, your warr needs to be at least 2.4 times your archers
for that case use this calculator of my thinker friend Dimwit, big thanks to him :)

and same basic calculations with other units
let say you have cavs and their accumulative attack more than any other units you have
warr att is 5o
cavs att 250
x=250/50=5
so, each 1 cav equals 5 warr
so, for warr to take the hits of SBs instead of cavs, your warr needs to be at least 5 times your cavs

(9) If you have a lot of warriors but less than 2.4 times, it is better just (send out/dismiss) some of archers out till this formula became true
arch in this case should and will still have the biggest accumulative attack

(10) If you don't have those warr, then CLOSE ur gates if u have FULL WALLS or if you don't lol who cares

(11) If you don't have those warr, get more swords for SBs by sending other troops out, that happens mostly in CD Compact Defense

(12) Use scouts to take the scout bombs hit, will add more later

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for cavs/phracts hit: more pikes for cavs

(1),(2) more abatis
(13) (send to/put in/leave in/reinforce with) more archers, PIKES and pults

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if other city has no troops under attack:

(1)

(14) (send to/put in/leave in/reinforce with) archers and pults or , also you can do fast defending with cavs and scouts

(15) In case city has no walls, more archers and swords will make it more difficult for the attacker

Just keep reinforcing till the attacker gets disappointed

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If you don't want this city to lose its defending hero:

(16) the idea is to prevent the city hero loyalty from dropping and since the higher attack hero is the one who defends so

Reinforce with higher attack hero with 1 scouts, when the scout got killed your hero will lose 5 loy, or reinforce with 1 cav or others if your so close so your hero doesn't lose loy

Don't reinforce that hero with other troops, so to send it faster

Watch y0ur hero loy and recall if loy got dropped more than

Drop the closest online member from your alliance or use alt or ask anyone close you trust to scout his city loy repetitively so you can recall your hero if the city loy so down and no hope


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If you don't want this player to lose his city and you cant reinforce it since there is no time or you don't have troops and you don't want to boot this member

The idea is to capture this city, be the attacker and npc it or move it

(17) look at reports and watch the cavs numbers this attacker is sending

Scout the city
-Drop the closest online member from your alliance or use your alt or ask anyone close you trust to scout his city loy

Reinforce cavs
-Reinforce with cavs more than what the attacker is sending (so your cavs will defend well against his cavs and that's needed specially at 0 loy) usually more than 1k cavs and time it to arrive just before the loy 0 by few seconds

Send food and gold
-Also send food and gold with these cavs or send with scouts and time it just before the cavs arrive 100k of each will be good or according to the gold or food needed for comfort and reward some heroes so, count that from cottages numbers in your scouting report

Get booted, Send 1scout attack
-Tell presbyter to boot you from the alliance and to send invite ASAP and send many attacks with 1+scout with junk heroes and time it to arrive just after the loy 0 by few seconds

Leave good time enough
-It is better for difference between the cavs arrive eta and the scouts attack eta to be good enough to let you to get booted from the alliance so the attack happen

Join you alliance back, wait for the cavs to arrive
-Back to your alliance and maybe you can send some food and gold with scouts to arrive after you capture it and wait till the cavs arrive

Get booted or quit
-Tell presbyter to boot u from the alliance ASAP so you dont miss the attacks (better to coordinate and tell him cavs eta but sometimes it is not accurate)
or you can just quit the alliance, it is faster

Comfort
-If you have gold only comfort with Disaster Relief and reward, you have 5 loy now so at least 5*6=30mins to move your hero back and reward and persuade captive heroes but move your cavs asap or dismiss them from this city embassy or recall them from Reports

-If you have food only comfort with Praying, you have 25 loy now, so, close gates from Rally Spot so you don't lose cavs and now you have time to move cavs and do what ever you want, maybe sell some food to get gold and reward if it has market

Join you alliance back and recall
-If your scouts attack got stuck during the attack due to any reason, join back to the same alliance and recall those heroes

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Online defense and sending your resources out or selling them

If you don't have troops, friends, and someone is coming for you and there is no one who can reinforce you quick enough please do this

Close your gates
Put all your resources with all your transports you got and send them out. This way your enemy neither kills your troops nor takes your resources :)
if you can't send all your resources away, sell them in the market at a very high price and take them out after the hit, or sell them for real and buy stone or leave it gold




I hope this info are right and can help um accept my best wishes
Please inform me for mistakes
Sorry for long boring post

Thank you, Happy Defending
Wish you the best

engsalem

Calculators

Here are two calculators you can use to exercise

I use this evocalc basically to understand rounds and speed and ranges of units

I use this dxcalc very good one to coordinate successful attacks in seconds and to determine good formation for defending and attacking

Thank you, Happy Calculating
Wish you the best

engsalem

Experience each troop gives

This image is copied from evony forums


Thank you, Happy Training
Wish you the best

engsalem

Titles promoting and Medals needed

The image is copied from evony forums


Thank you, Happy Promoting
Wish you the best

engsalem

Medals Required for Hero Persuasion

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Thank you, Happy Persuasion
Wish you the best

engsalem

Instant attack and politics heroes

Instant Wall Defenses building = Politics Heroes

Traps : 607
Abatis : 745
Towers : 826
Logs : 965
Trebuchets: 1066



Instant Troops Training = Attack Heroes



Warriors: 432 attack
Workers: 571 attack
Scouts: 709 attack
Pikeman: 790 attack
Swordsmen: 871 attack
Archers : 959 attack
Calvary: 1,030 attack
Transporters: 1,168 attack
Cataphracts: 1,249 attack
Ballistae: 1,388 attack
Battering Rams: 1,468 attack
Catapults: 1,526 attack


The image is copied from evony forums


Thank you, Happy Instant building
Wish you the best

engsalem

Market post

Many of us doesn't watch market prices, and we are usually in hurry to sell and buy at market prices

So, here is my thought about saving market post fees
when you are about to sell/offer food, you don't have to put the unit price at its maximum

Sometimes we don't have the fees required due to many reasons

You can just put the units price at 1 or even maybe the lowest price 0.001 i experienced

In that case, you will sell it at market prices BUT you will spare most of the fees you don't have to pay specially when you dont have this fee

Thank you, Happy marketing
Wish you the best

engsalem

Synchronizing times for better coordinating

Since everyone's time is different on troop arrivals.. that affects precise coordination badly

To synchronize out times

1. Click on your Computer Clock
2. Change time and date settings
3. Select the Internet Time Tab
4. Click on Change Settings
5. Server: time.windows.com and Update Now and try many times till it is done
6. Restart your browser

This will improve Coordination.

This is on Windows Vista, i am sure other OS aren't to far off this directions


From group mail, thanks to Diana

Thank you, Happy coordinating
Wish you the best

engsalem

Player 3 times your size

Who you are sending to?!

If the receiver is more than 3 times your size .. don't send .. you will get plundered.

according to this:

0-2.99x prestige = 0% losses
3-4.99x prestige = 46% losses
5-6.99x prestige = 73% losses
7-8.99x prestige = 86% losses
9+x prestige = 93% losses

You can always send to someone smaller than you.

Instead send with hero and 1 minute camp time, you might not get plundered

Thank you, Happy sending resources
Wish you the best

engsalem

Troop Training Calculator

Many wonders
When is the best time to replace barracks by cottages?!
Or
At what attack will i have archers at 1 seconds?!

Well, lets use this very good Calculator

Open this Troop Training Analysis Calculator

If you want to know at what attack you will get 1 sec archer

lets put 'Hero attack' at 600 with 'Military science' at 10

For Archers

You can see Archer 'Time' is 6 seconds and 'Next level' is at 602
'Next level' means that at 602 attack Archer training time will be decreased by 1 sec. which will be 5 secs

Next time put Hero attack at 602 'Next level' is 638 takes 4secs
Then
682 3secs
740 2secs
821 1sec
959 0sec instant archers


This is not accurate image but you can use it

This image is copied from evony forums

Thank you, Happy Training
Wish you the best

engsalem

Placing your cities, Training and Farming

Hello everyone

Since we are trying to use our time the best, so we can do more things in short and maybe the shortest time, we need to do some maths

I am 'engsalem' going to tell you from my experience what i have been doing over than year


Placing my cities

After merger, when i first picked my cities locations, i picked them having many flats around

Then i picked the flat that has more close flats around to place my city

I also picked locations that are at least 10 miles far from each other (some are closer now)

I chose my locations to be close not random and in some kinda circle

I made a map for them

After placing them on the map, i knew what city is much closer to other
I numbered them on the map by closeness to each other

And calculated miles and time in sec for scouts and trans between each city and the closest one in circle



For Training

Lets work on next map




I chose my base city to be L10 farm city 'Capped NPC10' and placed it at the center of the circle of cities

To start training in the shortest time considering these conditions
My best attack hero in the base city with enough trans or horses to move resources to all cities & all my cities are close, have mostly same 'full' population, have 1 free space in the Feasting Hall and have same taxes '0'

1: I send 'needed' resources 'calculated' to train a certain number of troops from the Base city to the rest cities with trans or horses in known time

2: Just b4 training i put production in all cities to 0%

3: I move my best hero with 1 scout from my base City to the closest City in cycle according to the map
Then the closest one in circle till i finish training in all cities
In this map, from 1st > 2nd > 3rd > 4th > 5th > 6th > 1st City again

4: After training in each city, and while the hero moving to next city, i put population back to '100' and comfort 'Population Raising' to add '5%' of the full pop
Your city will have more '5%' each 6 minutes till it reach 100% full pop if u have 100/0 loyalty/tax




For Farming



To start farming NPCs10 in the shortest time considering that your cities have the needed troops and heroes ready to farm NPCs10

I farm in cycle from south then east then north then west and the closest NPCs10 1mile then 1.2miles then 2miles then 2.2miles, etc

Using next map, i send to 1-1 then 2-1 then 3-1 then 4-1 then 5-1.2 then 6-1.2 then 7-1.2 then 8-1.2 then 9-2, etc

2-1 The first number for NPC10 and the other number for miles



That certain sequence makes it easy not to forget, as soon as i know last NPC10 i farmed, it is easy to continue

I picked to start from south because i found that i have '1mile NPC10' south of most cities, then east

I send farming waves then saving the formation using the favorites button then move to the closest city to send the same waves

Moving to the closest city is better for you browser and you computer, since there are many flats and valleys are common between close cities in the map window

Thank you, Happy Placing cities, Training and Farming
Wish you the best

engsalem

Heroes Converting

I would like everyone to convert many of their attack heroes to politics

But how to choose what to convert?!
Here is my view: convert attack heroes with bad base attack but also with good base politics

Before converting
L200 P40 A270 L200 P40 A260
Attack Base~270-200=70 Attack Base~260-200=60

After converting
new P=L200+P40=240 new P=L200+P40=240
L200 P240 A70 L200 P240 A60

So, it is better to get rid of bad base attack hero to converting
Keep your good base attack heroes as attack heroes and level them
As you know, you need 1 Holy Water per 10 Levels to redistribute hero's attributes, so don't level your attack hero you intend to convert to spare some Holy Waters

Thank you, Happy Converting
Wish you the best

engsalem

One type production city

One type production city

Many still doesn't care/know about what advantage city with 1 type of production
Say you have city with 100/0 = 40 sawmills10 / 10 forests10
Forest10 gives you 23% of basic production (220k in our case)
In our case 10 forests10 gives you 230% of basic production of 100% sawmills = 230%*220k = 506k lumber
You get all 100% of valleys gain


Say you have city with 50/50 = 20 sawmills10 / 20 ironmines10 / 10 forests10
Forest10 gives you 23% of basic production (each 110k in our case)
In our case 10 forests10 gives you 10*23%=230% of basic production of 50% sawmills = 230%*110k= 253k lumber
And 0 hills10 gives you 0*23%=0% of basic production of 50% sawmills = 0%*110k= 0k iron
That means you wasted 230% of the other 50% = 253k
You waste 50% of valleys gain


Say you have city with 50/50 = 20 sawmills10 / 20 ironmines10 / 5 forests10 / 5 hills10
Forest10 and hill10 each gives you 23% of basic production (each 110k in our case)
In our case 5 forests10 gives you 5*23%=115% of basic production of 50% = 115%*110k= 126.5k lumber
In our case 5 hills10 gives you 5*23%=115% of basic production of 50% = 115%*110k= 126.5k iron
Total 126.5k+126.5k=253k
That means you wasted 230% of the other 50% = 253k
You waste 50% of valleys gain

So, please convert your cities, cause you are wasting 50% half of valleys gain in case of 50/50

Thank you, Happy Converting
Wish you the best

engsalem

NPCs10 Formations

Hello everyone
Try one of these formations


Also i can recommend
For lower heroes 2k warr, 2k work, 4k scouts, 1k pikes, 1k swords, 88k archers, 2k trans
For average heroes 2k warr, 2k work, 4k scouts, 90k archers, 2k trans
For higher heroes 18k scouts, 80k archers, 2k trans

Thank you, Happy Farming
Wish you the best

engsalem

The Fastest Hero Leveling

Using scouts and archers against NPCs10

Theoretical way
~27 million experience in 60minutes from 15NPCs10
Each NPC10 gets 10% of his full defenses in 6mins
That means each NPC10 gets his full defenses in 60mins
The most NPCs10 i can hit in 60mins must be 1mile far

Lets calculate
It takes 4mins for whole trip to 'NPC10 1mile far' using scouts and archers with full researches
In 60mins i can hit x(1mile NPCs10)*4
x=15NPCs10
~1.8m exp*15NPCs10=~27m exp


Practical way
Well, see what i am doing is: i have 9 cities, 21 'NPCs10 1mile far' around my cities, at average 20 seconds for scouts to move from city to the closest one

In that case, i can farm maybe 14 'NPCs10 1mile far' in an hour

I have 2-3 'NPCs10 1mile far' per city, 1 city with 1 'NPC10 1mile far' only

So, lets say, i have 5 cities , each one has 3 'NPCs10 1mile far' and 20 seconds between each city to the closest one, that means, 15 'NPCs10 1mile far' and 4 times moving 1 scout with that hero which means 4*20=1min

You can see now
14 'NPCs10 1mile far' takes lets say
14*4mins trip=56
1min moving the hero between cities
56 + 1 + some mins for lagging and other mins = ~1hr
See, i can hit 14 full 'NPCs10 1mile far' in less than hour if iam focusing

About the formation i am using
At first i used 4k scouts / 96k archers
Also used 20k scouts / 80k archers
Also used 30k scouts / 70k archers and it works fine with my hero
Or even i used only 100k archers
But now i back to use 10k/90k
Try to use more archers so you can get more resources back from that NPC10 since archers have 5 times load of scouts

Thank you, happy leveling
Wish you the best

engsalem

Medals Farming by engsalem

Hello everyone

I know many of you are wondering how to get medals and why cant get any
I will tell you my way IN DETAIL and i think and it is easy for first promotions
It might be hard at first to get rose medals since many of us doesn't have enough troops yet, but later it will be easy to get next promotions :)

1. Server 86 medals drop rates
These are Server 86 (S86) medals drop rates and still works for Super Server 28 (SS28)















































































2. What medals are you looking for?!
i 'engsalem' got Lion from Desert 10, Honor from Forest 10, Freedom from Swamp 10 and Desert 10, Wisdom from Hill 8, Justice from Desert 10, Roses out of 208 hits on Lake 8 and 4 Roses out of 85 hits on Lake 10 also u can try Forest 8 or 10, Cross and Courage from most Valleys but u can try to farm Courage in Hills, 4 Courage out of 26 hits on Hill 9


3. Get yourself the right valley 1-2 miles from your city (as close as you can) and focus on this valley even if u didn't get your medals for first many hits


4. Free one spot on your valleys, so you can capture this valley and abandon it (so it can regenerate full troops)


5. Move your politics heroes out and move your attack heroes in this city with troops needed


6. Send many waves of good formation (according to valleys level) few seconds apart

You can start sending waves whenever you want, but i recommend that you send first wave at 0 second then at 10 sec, 0, 10, 20, 30, etc, it does work better for me
You can camp one minute also, whatever best for you that suits your speed, your system and internet speed

For levels 10 valleys: 30k+ archers, 1 warr, 1k scouts, 1 pike
or to reduce losses of archers send
15-30k+ archers, ~300 balls, 1 warr, 1 work, 1 scout, 1 pike, 1 sword, 1 cav, 1 phract
For levels 9 valleys: 15k archers, 1k scouts, 1 pike, 1 warr
For levels 8 valleys: 11k archers, 500 scouts, 1 pike, 1 warr

These formations works fine for me with my good heroes and my level 10 researches
so according to your heroes, your researches and your losses u can put your good formations

Also you can change number of units each round, you may get better chances to get more medals


7. Open your 'Overview' then 'Valleys' tab, keep it open and watch the unread 'Reports' number


8. When you see 'Reports' number button increased by one click the 'Valleys' tab every time and you will see that you captured this valley


9. Click on 'View' button then 'Abandon' button (this should be fast), and that's how you determine camp time needed between waves


10. Keep this 'Valleys' tab open and watch again, and so on, till all your waves are done


11. For last wave, you don't have to click 'Abandon' button if u won't attack soon, so just click 'View' then 'Recall'


12. Close 'Valleys' tab and go to your 'Rally Spot' building then click on 'Medic Camp' button and 'Heal' your wounded troops


13. Go to 'Reports' button then 'Army' tab and read them or from your 'My Items' then 'Medal' tab check if you got what you need


14. Watch this video i made (no voice included, sorry for the lag)
or you can search YouTube for: How to Farm Medals - The Best way - Evony by engveng



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Some more tips

1. Around maintenance time after and before , i got more medals
2. Send 8+ waves each round, 10 secs between, abandon after each hit
3. Stick with the right valley till u get what u need
4. Your feasting hall shouldn't have any free slots, often captive hero = no medals
5. You can Scout Bomb all level 8-10s valleys around you, specially after maintenance, valleys just got leveled up and no one hit them yet, but SB 10s will cost u a lot
6. Higher valleys level = higher drop rates = more losses

Thank you for reading, Happy farming, hope it works for you
Wish you the best luck

engsalem